Um programa de conversas acolhedor onde Ishida, com uma perspectiva suave e artística, e Wako, com uma lógica afiada, exploram as lacunas do cotidiano e desfrutam de descobertas surpreendentes.
#79 「人間の間に起こる摩擦がいいのだ」
S1 E79 • 24 mins • Jul 30, 2025
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